Thursday, May 15, 2008

El Topo and Sinn's Up Coming Schedule

Hey Guys,

For the Month of June Sinn and myself will be hitting these cities
Doing Lair Talks and Seminars

Boston, MA June 6-8

Detroit, MI June 13-15
Charlotte, NC June 27-29

We Will be doing a
Lair Talk and Mini 2 Hour Workshop to start everything off on Fri Night
Getting Started in Game Seminar with Infield Portion (Sinn and El Topo)
Same Night Lay Seminar (Sinn)
theREDstack Seminar (El Topo)
In each of these cities.


Signing up is EASY!
The Lair Talk and Workshop $50 in Advanced $55 cash at the door-





























Getting Started in Game $1500.00 (Seminar and Infield, over 2 days)
For Beginning to Intermediate guys that want to take things to the next level.
see description below






























theREDstack Seminar $750.00 Seminar Only
see description below






























Same Night Lays $950 Seminar Only
(Description Below)

































Here are the descriptions of the programs-

Getting Started in Game (Sinn and El Topo)

Getting Started in Game- $1500 - Sinn/El Topo (limited to 10 Students)

Don't let the name fool you. This is a whole new approach to game. If you are a Beginner or Intermediate PUA this is the perfect course for you.
It will get you going in building a foundation for you to achieve all your dreams in terms of women.
A new style of teaching, an efficient and effective approach, Sinn and El Topo have put together something defining in this program.


First Day (Fri) 1 Hour Seminar breaking down the basics of what we need to see that evening to properly shape your game, and 3 hours in Field.

Second Day (Sat day into Sat night) 5 hour seminar with 3 hours in Field
The seminar on Sat will completely nail down the new models of Attraction, Comfort and Seduction, giving an absolute structure to your game.
You will walk out of there equip for the night with a complete Attraction Arsenal. In field that evening you'll be opening and should have all the basics down for you to open and transition into relaxed rapport with your targets. This is the definitive coarse on everything you will need to know to Get Started in Game!

theREDstack Workshop (El Topo)

theREDstack Seminar- $750 El Topo (Limited to 10 Students)

We have all heard about theREDstacks and now here is your opportunity learn how it works. See the design the El Topo formulated so that he could literally get results in EVERY TYPE of Student.

What makes the stack work like no other product out there? It takes parts of Your Life and turns it into Gold. You will learn to properly DHV yourself, you will learn how to frame to elicit a Sub Personality, you will learn how to tactically run your comfort game into a defining tool of game. While simply telling a story about your life (while being honest), imagine if you could build irresistible attraction leading your target right where you want her.

Well worth the 5 hours, you will walkout of the room with another Veil of the Matrix Revealed.
Who knew that all those things you never thought to be seductive just had to be re voiced in a way for you to have any girl melt in your hand.

Same Night Lays- $950 Sinn (unlimited attendance)
This is the course that blew everyone away. Over a year in the making Sinn's SNL Course will teach you not only the techniques but also the mentality to master how to meet and close a girl in the Same Night! This was once thought to be a myth in the community until Sinn and Captain Jack turned it into a repeatable technique. Learn to achieve lays that come as quick as 30mins, learn the proper frame escalation...SNLs are a series of Steps and Experience in Field, not some luck of the draw community Myth.
Even if SNLs are not your goal, this idea of efficient game is the BEST way to game, taking all the unnecessary elements and throwing them out.
Dominate your game knowing,
what to do, how to talk to women, how to frame, and how handle the logistics, all in a 5 hour Seminar!



email any questions to
eltopopua@gmail.com or sinnstravel@gmail.com


Text Message Game Part 1

The Text Game

This is one long post so I am breaking it down in a few parts.
I will get the rest of the posts up in the next few days.

Texting is something that about a year ago I realized the community didn’t have a lot of solid info on.

Now like all things, there is a lot of info on it, but not a lot of it I found was really useful.
There were some routines to get a response form someone, but none that built beyond that.
There are a lot of dynamics to text game, and I am known for the fairly aggressive style, but I practice a bunch of different forms and have friends who have a lot of different techniques on how to text as well. Hopefully this post will shed some light on that.

I will say that a lot of us actually game with text messaging as a pretty useful tool.
So it is a Tool of Game,
you can take a lot of short cuts with use of Text and IM, and then there are some other things that you can’t really make as effective in it. A good example would be, you can get very sexual with a girl over text in a fairly quickly, but you can’t really show too much of a human side with it either. You can’t penetrate deep 'comfort' emotions in text, you are mainly dealing with surface level emotions, hence the fantasy element.

Not the only way but a way to game.

What inspired this post was a few things.

The First was that someone texted a girl I had dated, “what’s up HOOKER!”. This text was kind of a joke that actually turned into many fruitful experiences, but the thing to point out about texting in such an offensive manner is not to belittle people, but to stimulate a response and have a then door to elicit sexuality.

The Second is that a few email blasts came into my email box saying that they had the Text Message Secrets. Now there is definitely good text material out there, but the series of texts they listed in this email (that was just released last week) was pathetic. I know the guys who wrote it, and they are super PUAs, but it once again opened my eyes to how some of the stuff put out there can be complete bullshit.

And the Third thing I would have to say is that I use text a lot, my friends use text a lot. We all do it a little different, but there is definitely a theoretical formula we follow.

So let’s begin here by saying Game is communication and orchestrating it to follow the direction that you want.
You are Socially Engineering interactions with people.
That includes it all, you can do this in a very Passive way that can be very influential, and you can do it in a Manipulative way. That is up to you. Game has been used and abused like a hooker’s pussy.

So the one thing to realize about any superficial communication is that is can fit a Fantasy World or can be given an Identity or Frame or Linked to a Subpersonality.
What I mean by superficial type of communication is communication that someone’s deeper emotions are not involved.
That includes Communication in any area of Attraction. And the more distanced it is from reality the better.

This way you bypass a lot of comfort and can get to seduction a lot faster than before. This is what Captain Jack did with frames, starting them early and then have him define an out come with less emotional investment. This is what I see when I read Brad P’s LRs (good product by the way), he would make his Attraction Game very Sexual, and made it fun allowing his targets to

So in person, face to face, that is the most ‘real’ you can get with someone. And it is harder to get them to accept a fantasy role in the early stages, or harder for them to accept a subpersonality role. However, the face to face meeting is what our over all goal, it is pretty hard to stick your dick in someone without this happening.

Over the phone, this is somewhat personal but much easier for someone to jump into a subpersonality or live out some extension of themselves. The main point here, is that because there is some detachment from interacting personally people will be more willing to step outside of their identity they convey when in public.

Over Email it can totally be done, but you have got to fish for it. You can’t immediately try and turn someone into a bleeding romantic, a sexually frustrated slut, or whatever your goal is. But you can get there pretty deep, pretty quick. In fact when I first started this was a big tool of mine. Very comfort based, and I still don’t know many people that have met someone for 10 mins and carried out an email conversation with them for a few weeks and then without talking over the phone was able to close them. This I did quite a bit last year consistently.

Over Chat or Text, what this post is about, is a really easy way to get someone to accept some passive role with you and very quickly build that momentum towards sex. The funny thing was that a lot of my friends in the community would not believe me when I would tell them about the texts that I would exchange with people. I would tell them about texts and they thought I was exaggerating. I thought this was a natural thing to do. It always made sense that you can be a totally freak over text.
I thought people did it all the time.

Then I met Levo and Doc Holiday and a few other people in the community that were doing stuff that I was doing. They were also being sexually aggressive in their Texts!
Also one of the books (Social Intelligence, by Daniel Goleman) I have always talked about as having pages and pages full of information relevant towards game mentioned a study about Instant Messenger Game.
If I wasn’t so lazy I would site the page it is on, but the general idea was that there were normal Teen/Young Adults that would have no leanings towards dysfunctional behavior, yet within minutes of Instant Messaging people they went sexual.

I just think that for guys like myself in the Community, we tend to over think how people can normally act. And escalation in Text can be normal. Now mix it with some strategy and you can make it one of your biggest weapons.

But was always doing this sort of thing naturally. I have always been some who could push things too far and recover so I did that in game and I did it in text too.

Although my PUA friends believed me in what I would text wanted to see proof. And they got it eventually.
I was with Sinn and Future in Chicago and we were finishing up workshop.
I started a text exchange with a girl and the value in this was that it was one long exchange. It didn’t happen over days, weeks, months, it went from me having her number sending a text and in an hour or so, she was masturbating (or so she said) while texting me back and forth.

The post is called “the Sexualized Text” I think I put it up in July or August of Last Year.

At this point people would constantly ask me about text, and when I was out they would ask me advice.
I would give it to them and sometimes it would work and other times it wouldn’t.
In fact one thing that Shaft says is that whenever he uses my texts, he gets no response. But what he started to point out was that there was a method to what I was doing.

Also at the time, Sinn and Future with their Break Through Comfort program had started adding a text aspect to it.
They would get girls in a whirlwind of “Hot Cold Texts”. And when we were looking at the consistencies in what we were all doing we were going “Hot Cold”

Now in this I want to breakdown a few different ways to Text.
There is stuff, I do, Sinn does, Captain Jack does, Shaft does, and little things I have picked up from other folks (PUAs and naturals).

There is a lot here, and it really is up to the other guys to breakdown their methods, I am just offering what I notice from observing these guys and how I have been able to replicate it.

Before we get to any sort of “Hot Cold”, we need to establish how we initiate the text.
It is not really an opener, but it contains the same sort of traits as an opener. Your initial text is supposed to stimulate attention back. It is supposed to elicit a response. It is not supposed to gain too much traction, mainly because it really can’t at that point. Like an opener it is just there to open communication.

You also need to realize that one of the best ways to text is text like a girl would. Careful placement of emoticons and capitalization work out well.

So here is the old standard that you can never really go wrong with when initialing text…

“Do you speak text … (name) ☺”

If you want you can be kind of quirky or funny with them, may sound stupid, but they work. Some quirkier ones might be…

“I just totally ate (or any other verb) the craziest thing, and in a really weird way it made me think of YOU! :P”

“I am sending you this text before I forget and tomorrow’s hangover kicks in, TEXT ME BACK WOMAN!”

“Right now I am in the bathroom, wondering if there is ever a beneficial way to write someone’s number on the wall. But it was awesome meeting you last night. :p”

“This is (insert name), text me something cool… ;P "

So now you have opened her up and where do you go from there?
Well what are your goals?
Are you trying to build a relationship with her? Are you trying to lay her as quick as possible? Are you trying to keep her around as a possible fuck buddy?
One thing that I am a big fan of, is that I will treat all the girls I pursue as SNLs. I want to go for the Lay as quick as possible. This is because it cuts out the completely unnecessary comfort that was once thought necessary in the community.
So what I am trying to do in my initial interactions is this-

-I am trying to split her personality. I want text to be a fantasy world with her.
-I want to gain compliance in the rhythm of how I am texting. For instance if I send texts that elicit an emotionally heated response, then I want to be the one cooling it down and turning it sexual.
-I want to get sexual. This is easier than you would think in text. I generally bait for it and it comes to the surface.
-I want them to facilitate a role, weather it is texting me back or performing some task that they are designated to they need to be dong something for me under my definition of them.
- I need to get them in an exchange that they can’t get out of. They emotionally isolate themselves with me through text, thus my interactions with them are a secret.

“Hot Cold”
This is kind of the original consistency we came up with, but it makes sense.
It is pure Attraction Game, and text is really Attraction Game that can be built into so many different realms. to sleep with you.

What this is, is simple. You send a text that carries one nice thing, and one teasing thing. This can go in further extremes, to something totally endearing and another totally repulsive. Like, “Just thinking about you ;)… would you get OUT of my HEAD!”
Why ‘Hot Cold’ works is because it gets a response and you are leading it. If you gain compliance over changing a anyone’s emotions you gain compliance over them. Humans are not logical, drama is a good thing when trying to speed along an interaction with women.
That is how Bait hook Reel Release and Push Pull work and this is push pull at its best. Here are a few examples of initial texts using “Hot Cold” in terms of an Opening Text… they do get better.
As you will see below, I have played around with putting the push before the pull and vise versa. No need to put that much thought in it. I give both examples. I think the lead out with the coldness may work better, but the main thing is that cat-like dynamic we are trying to portray.

“WTF I can’t believe you’re actually going home! I guess the after party will have to be going one without you”

“I am totally thinking about that (some detail about your interaction, like an odd article about their clothing)…You really shouldn’t tempt me creative minds can be trouble.”

“So today I totally ran into your twin! LOL! Except she was a good girl ☺!”

“You’re too much here…so what are up to tomorrow? ;P”

Now what is important here is not the examples specifically, but the nature of the dialogue. The two things at once, the beginnings of Hot Cold. The quicker you can become that guy she texts in her own world rather than that guy she texts that she politely responds to, if at all the better.

Escalating Hot Cold

Now one of the traps of any sort of Hot Cold interaction can be fucked up pretty easily.
It still works like a charm, but it can work like a charm in the wrong directions. So if you are using it to escalate than you need to know what direction you are going in. How it can go wrong is that is can add too much comfort and lead people towards relationships, and using Hot Cold to shape a relationship can be really out of control, cause if you play it how I do than you’ll frame the women to be totally dramatic.
So we want our Hot cold to go sexual and not emotional. To do that we need to start identifying their reactions and roles as sexual, this works out really well in text.

Here is a breakdown-
“Ok so you really think that!? Such a BAD girl…”
So the Cold (negative) part is “Ok so you really think that?” then the Hot (positive) part is “Such a BAD girl…”
Here her compliment is fitting her identity to be a positive one, but positive in a deviant way.
Now Game is something that is not really ‘making’ people do what they don’t want to do. Game is making the right situations come out and leading which way they grow. So we are not saying right off the bat, ‘you are a bad girl’. We are putting a very attractive stereotype out there and seeing if she accepts it. 8 out of 10 times she will.
Remember, we are just trying to help that sort of side come out of her.

So here are some examples of Text Exchanges Escalating Hot Cold-

PUA- “So I was just thinking…WTF did I do last night? Did I randomly text someone I shouldn’t have (don’t you hate that)…you came to mind ;) ”

Target- “LOL! No you’re safe here. No drunk texts.”

(So this is a weak response, but still a response. You want to actually get them invested, but it is your first text so no worries)

PUA- “So either you’re saving me from embarrassment or telling the truth. I like a girl that can keep a secret!”

Target- “I always tell the truth! So now you have got me wondering”

(this is a better response, she addressed both comments but still not too invested)

PUA- “Don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”

Target- “What? Snap???”

PUA- “Crazy stuff with a client of mine. But now it’s your job to make me feel better! But don’t get and crazy ideas I might not be able to handle it! ;)”

Target- “HA! ☺ Just what did you have in mind? I think I could give you a lot that you can’t handle. LOL”

PUA- “Now you’re giving me making me think of all sorts of crazy thoughts… ease up bad girl”

So what is happening here is using a hot cold dynamic to progress on in the exchange. One of the things here is that I am moving more towards a fantasy dynamic with the target and moving it to bring out a sexual subpersonality for them to fulfill.
But notice how the parts where I am saying things like, “don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”
I capitalize things like WOMAN! To get a bit of a rise out of her, and then I seed her to take on a position where I can give her a role to fulfill.

The next text I send then says, “but now it’s your job to make me feel better!”
This is something we will get into later, but it is something that Sinn does to gain compliance in a role in text to efficiently begin framing them, saves a lot of time in person with them.

The rest is still to come!

Friday, May 9, 2008

Doc's Guide to the First Date!

Hey guys,
This post has been up there for a few days under Doc Holiday's blog
One thing I will say about Doc is that he is not only a Bad Ass at this PUA stuff he rivals me
with his disturbed sense of humor...
and he is funny as fuck.

There are a bunch of dudes in Boston who are coming up with all sorts of new ideas in terms of Game and Lifestyle.

Sinn and I will be up there June 6th,7th and 8th to do a few workshops and we will be fortunate enough to have
Doc Holiday, Entropy and Saffron helping us out adding their expertise.
In fact those 3 are having a Boot Camp this weekend in Boston!
If you're in the are it is not to be missed.

But for now check out this article on Doc's Blog on the First Date. He truly is a Day Game master!

Word

ET

Wednesday, May 7, 2008

A Small World- the HOOKER comes full circle

This is actually so funny that I had to post about it, and I am still laughing my ass off!

So I just got an email from one of my exes.
And for those of you who found my text stuff on my blog way back when you shoudl know the story.

One night at Bar X in TX, Captain Jack was texting a bunch of girls over beers, and so I said i would text a bunch of girls in my phone 'What's up HOOKER!'
I then got a huge response and used it as someway of getting a rise out of girls to maintain them into some fantasy land world of text.

So I just got this email from one of those Original Hookers I texted. She knows about the community bullshit and I am sure some of you out there know her.

But here is the email...

... this is toooooo funny I have to tell you!!
Do you happen to work with some guy named XXXXXX in XXXXXX? He had been emailing and texting non stop for the last week, and just now, he hit me up on text going:
"what's up HOOKER?" I texted back "haha...textin' El Topo style huh?" he goes "You know it" I said "know wat?" Him: "You want me hahahaha...." Me:"Do I now?" then he just stopped!! haha.... this is too funny! men with these pick up crap are everywhere out there!! TOO SAD!!!

The funny thing is that I just got mass emailed in one of those company news letters of some "text message secrets" featuring 2 instructors, and after looking it over, I realize why you might actually be better off texting "what's up HOOKER!"
There is some pretty bad Text advice out there.

I will try and make a post of how it works, with theory and examples in the future...
for now I am still LAUGHING!

And a note to the dude texting my EX, keep it going Brother!
Hit me up over email, you get a free phone consult!

EltopoPUA@gmail.com


This is actually Mentalist's answer to Text messaging!
Watch and learn!

Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Austin Review

Hey guys,
I just wanted to put this post up that was a Note from Sinn and My student.
We had a few mixing and matching in between programs, but this guys actually took all three things we had to offer.
His name is Jazzed and there is nothing like a student who absorbs everything you give him.
I think all 10 of the infield notes I gave him, he immediately executed.

Also I would like to thank
Dante, and theGoat for helping out as well.

This was one of my best Austin trips yet, and will post about it later, but I figure this review was worth posting.

friends in Boston, Detroit, Orlando and North Carolina make sure and sign up.
Boston is already almost full!


Well,

I have seen the future.

Having only been in the community since this past
December(when I had my amazing MM Boot-camp
experience!), I have worked very, very hard to improve
my Game.

I had spent hours practising routines, and researching
techniques with good success. But I never really
understood "how" they all worked? Certain techniques
always seemed like a bad fit for me?, and I struggled
at times with ideas I just didn't understand . . .that
was until this past weekend . . .

In Austin I got it!. . .Game is F-U-N!

Sinn (THE most fun guy to Game with), gave me alien
technology which immediately helped me in-field.

He also never left my side?. .I don't know how he does
it . . .lol. . .He was always there, diagnosing my
EVERY move in set. Without his help - I may never have
understood my true sticking points OR how to correct
them! Thanks bro!

I also worked with El Topo, and what he gave me was
HUGE!

He demonstrated in-field, how wrong my old thinking
was that Game was ALL about dominating sets and being
a spectacle of positive female attention!

He showed me how fast and deep people will connect
with you when you are a "real" person. He also had
some really creative ways to do this. These ideas
helped round out my game in a big way!

For anyone looking to go beyond a boot-camp and
actually internalize - HOW it all works, this seminar
is a for you! These concepts will allow you to better
perfect your own style and "flow".The result - WAY
MORE FUN!

I would also add that if possible, always take a
Boot-camp with other seminars. Since I took all three,
Sinn and El-Topo were able to custom fit the SNL and
Routine Stacking seminars to my exact style and
sticking points!Instead of just text book information
- they related it to REAL examples from the REAL sets
all weekend!

I now know the power of ongoing coaching and what it
can do for your Game! This is the next level!


JaZZed

PS:On this being a biased review. There was a BIG
negative. A 6ft 9 I may not have lost had it been
after my SNL seminar on Sunday!!! Straight torture
son!!!

Friday, May 2, 2008

The Vegas Trip

So there we were in Vegas once again…
The fist time I ever worked with Sinn we were in Vegas and since then I don’t’ know how many times we have been there together since.

But this time it all really clicked. I mean first off we had one of the biggest breakthroughs with a student we have had. There is never anything like that, seeing a guy take huge leaps, going from not believing in himself to dominating and holding sets…
And that is the thing, I don’t even know if HE knows how good he was doing. But then again that is the mark of anyone who gets good with this thing, they never really know how good they are, they are always pushing it.
That is one of the things, Sinn, CJ and Future always told me, ‘the guys who think they are better than they are plateau, the guys who think they are worse than they are always get better. We can all be pretty hard on each other but none of us are as hard on each other as we are on ourselves.

Also The Cali Pimp and Pimp Z hung with us a few times. Pretty interesting stuff, those guys come from a completely different approach to all this stuff and it is always fun to mix the styles.

So this time it is night number one.
Our buddy 8 Rope previously known as Algasm, met up with us early in the evening.
He then merged us into a set that was giving him trouble.
It was one of those things that, Sinn and I noticed right away, how immediately sexual these girls were… and I don’t think we noticed enough.
But it was one of those things that I used to really find amazing whenever I watched CJ work. It always went so fucking fast. I don’t’ think of it much anymore, I forget how hard it was once for me. But basically I talked to the girl, within a few seconds said something about cumming on something (kind of in my general dialogue) and notice she was responsive. And from there you press on.
I mean both of us are pretty aggressive guys, and as the night would unfold we realized how much we could have press harder… the magnitude of debauchery these two had in em was pretty impressive. I guess when you’re married and you’re not getting enough, it must build in you or something.

So we bounce with the girls to another venue.
Where we started out was very quiet and the second location is loud. Sinn works his stuff with his target and I work with mine.
And here is the difference, if you haven’t noticed; Sinn brings a different feel to game than I. He is pressing hard while I work less aggressive physically and more so with my verbal stack based material.
In this case we both had them going, but as Sinn pointed out to me about an hour later, ‘why aren’t we pulling now’.
But it is on with the girls; they are working up all kinds of crazy shit in the venue.
The funny thing is, in all of this there is another girl with Hair down to her Ass who is corralled next to us. While Sinn is occupying both of the other targets, I open this girl asking for a lighter. I figure some sort of Jealousy wouldn’t hurt. It really never does, and as Captain Jack has time and time again said, it is almost a necessity for moving a set along fast.

And this is where all this stuff can kind of eludes me at times… Miss Long Ass Hair (who is REALLY fucking Hot) starts parading me around her friends; number closes me, and starts texting me as I go back into set with the original girls, who are pretty much ready to go at this point, so I have got to bail on Miss Long Ass Hair and go for what is already in the works. Now right now it seems pretty understandable with the Miss LAH, but later the story picks up… and I will explain here in a second.

So at this point Sinn leads the pull, in fact due to the amount of booze that is swimming in my brain I pretty much go through the motions at this point…

which includes walking through the casino,
getting in a cab, getting out of that cab,
walking through another casino,
getting in an elevator and walking to out room.

I am outside the room with one girl and Sinn is inside with the other.
At this point the girl I am outside with goes to the door to listen to her friend being fucked, no big deal. And all of a sudden she totally lights up, I mean she gets fucking primal. Now I am used to this, but in the hall of the hotel I am slapped sober for a second while she grabs me an starts pulling down my pants.
All I remember at that point was her sucking me off and me saying, ‘someone is walking this way’ and her saying ‘you fucking lying pussy, I want to see you cum’.
And so the kind man walking by did a double take and politely acted to ignore us.
There wasn’t much more than a smile that needed to be exchanged between him and I for him to know to just keep walking by.

This actually happened to me the first time I was in Vegas and fucked everything up.

The funny thing was, that the girl wanted to go inside and watch her friend and experience some sort of orgy amongst us. But by that time Sinn was done and I remember his girl had to go to the bathroom, while saying she needed to clean her ass.

Nice and neat… the two left right away…

So in the meantime, I check my phone to see that this fucking other girl has been constantly texting me. So I text back.
I call her, because I want more and she can’t get away from her friends…or whatever.
I go to crash out, and still she is texting…
7am, she calls, 9am she calls.

Now here is the weird thing with Miss LAH… I met her and probably talked to her for about 15 mins cumulative. Now I have done stuff like this before, but I ran some pretty heavy comfort while doing so. In this case none… only A game. I mean primarily, it was all for jealousy. Plus loud venue, and really hard to do anything outside of Touching and Body Language.
It is a common thing especially in Vegas, but really in any club, to meet someone that night and get them all worked up but then the next day when their head is completely clear to continue the exchange.
And actually she sends me nothing the next day. I call leave a VM, and hear nothing.

In the meantime, while waiting in the lobby the next day, Sinn opens up this set…actually they hit him up for a lighter and then it all began. I sat there groggy and eventually started talking to one of them. It was pretty clear in who he was gaming and it worked out perfect. He number closed, I number closed, we bail.
Work with our student and begin the flurry of texts to these girls. Now text as I always have said is a fantasyland. Even gaming in the club is a fantasyland. Anytime you are in an environment where you can introduce new ideas (in our case sexual) use that sort of thing as leverage.
So you get a girl’s number, text her immediately (well wait 20mins to 2 hours, but why wait?)
With these girls it went quick…
But a good example of trying to fish for sexuality in a text is to say something like…

“so where the are you guys?’
She Answers, (if it is something at all interesting) “now that is HOT, ;) … but really wait the fuck are you doing?”
(if it is something that is pretty dull and can really not be at all ‘hot’, then you say, “come on I thought you were more creative than that… So then what will you be doing? ;) ”

In any case, you want to set the field for them to entertain a type of role, very easily and comfortably.

Later on that night Sinn and I are at another Venue that has always been good to us, he opens up a set I occupy her disgusting piece of shit of a friend while trying not to vomit in my mouth. Both of them married too. I mean why wear the ring in Vegas… do you really think it repels anyone?
So we are at the bar and a 3 set has proximity so I see my way out.
I open them, and I am saved.
We move to a little further down the bar and…motherfucker… Sinn’s girl pulls me away and put me in front of her friend. Back to holding my stomach… everybody out there smile to mock me.

I talk to her while imagining the movie ‘the Silent Scream’ (I never went to catholic school but the movie is what I blame for a population of things- like the THING in front of me-walking the casinos of Vegas)
And this is where you are like… do I wing and be a friend or do I go back to the set with the actual Hot Girl in it?

So the actual Hot girl walks by, I say, ‘hey save me’, she says, ‘you don’t know that girl, but she pulled you away?’ and she pulls me away.

We stand out on the Casino floor and I use my amazing ability to talk about anywhere in the US, knowing all the roads and weird restaurants and bars along the way. Yes, playing music and living on the road will not only make your keen on dumpster diving, but also you will have stories…and a lot of them.

Sinn disappears with his girls and I really don’t give a shit cause I am gaming one of the hottest girls I have seen in a long while.
Now with this girl it all makes sense. I run my typical stuff… stories from my life…stories form her life using my normal pattern of
DHV/Ground, constantly Checking In, Cold Reading while Framing, and into Qualification, and at this point where I was once good at it, all the stacks I have written makes me better at it.
But as I said it makes sense with her, she is hooked…I have to worry about nothing other than Logistics, which are kind of weird.
1- She is leaving in the morning…..GOOD
2- She is with her Sister and her Brother in law….BAD
3- They are sharing a room….BAD
4- My hotel is the only hope, but kind of far….. SO SO
Her Sis and Hubby leave us alone and go back to their room.
I continue in Set.
More momentum gets built, I mean how much of a stage do you really have to set.
But here is the thing… I meet a lot of girls. I love meeting people, but in reality it is very rare when you actually meet someone you like. Now really that is the end goal in terms of the lifestyle you want to build. But then there is the other side…to it… Feeling before fucking is NEVER a good thing.
And by all means, I am in no mood to settle down with anyone, but it is still refreshing.
Also I have been using a lot of these sexual cold reads and it is fun to get them really deep with someone. One thing I will say
1- The community uses fairly weak cold reads, and can take it so much further
2- The more I use the sexual ones, and the deeper I get with them, the more I realize how unbelievably consistent they are.

Some Examples
1- I hate how that my friends will say, men like sex more than women, and it is total bullshit. I mean women like sex, just as much if not more (oldie but goodie)
2- I bet one of the things you hated most about the last guy you dated was that he never really satisfied you, like he never dominated you, or let you dominate him
3- One of the things about you is that you have always been really sensual as a person, but not everybody sees it. I mean even as a kid, you noticed people picked up on it so you actually kept a lot of that to yourself. So it is only when you are really comfortable with someone you will let that out, but most guys don’t get that about you.
4- So I bet one of the things with you is that you like to have people turned on by you? Like you may not actually do it, but you have always gotten off on someone wanting you.
5- There is a total difference between being fucked without attachment and feeling something with someone. And both have completely two different meanings to you.
6- You have always really liked sex, and like feeling that way with many people, you can be detached from it. But when you are with someone you are totally committed.
7- Just in the way you speak, I can tell that you want to just feel like a woman with someone…and no one has ever made you feel desired in that way.
8- I bet with you, and I don’t know what made me just think of this, is that you have always fantasized about having sex in at work or in some model home or something like that…

The thing with these are, that you it might be hard to come out and say these things, you need to weave them in. Then you have also got to turn them into frames…a post all onto itself.

So with enough of that, we eventually go to the elevator. I was just walking her over to it.
It opens I pull her inside. We make out and I am just trying to get her BT up.
The main thing here is that I have got her to accept such a frame and psychological state that I have got to start empowering that with her physical.
This is kind of the thing with the KFP.
It really begins with a compliance sort of narrative before you get to the physical.
Sinn pointed out to me someone on the boards knocking the KFP, but fuck them…it works. It works better than any other seduction thing I have heard. And the funny thing is, that for all the years that the community has been around what the fuck is there in terms of closing material?

So I build the compliance. I put her hand on my cock and ask her what she is touching, she is nervous about it (they pretty much always are the longer you work the set, the quicker it goes, as long as you have framed sexually, the more aggressive they will be with the narrative. You have given too much identity to that subpersonality.)
Then the logistics comes into play.
She is sharing a room with one bed with her sister and brother in law.
So she tells me we have to stop outside the room and explains the situation. I keep pushing (not always the best thing, sometimes you need to lead the easing of the interaction, thing Push Pull in terms of Seduction –another rant of mine for another post).
I easy up eventually, and we agree to be quiet.
I try to get her in the bathroom, but she won’t shut the door behind her.
I try and do it and her state starts to break.

Back to the narrative.
Back to the cock.
Back to the sexual push pull, but in very quiet whispered voices...kinda loses the drama of it all if you know what I mean?

Her sister wakes up, but still in the bed, and asks if she is in the room. She replies that she is.
At this point I am done fighting it. It is late and fuck it, I will get off in someway.
I could use it. But I am done trying, and I have a shit load of comfort that although she is leaving tomorrow at some point I will close it.

So back home to sleep.

To make a long story short here…
The next day Sinn and I meet up with the two girls we gamed in the lobby… easy close.
As always what is comes down to with some sets is logistics and being dominant. In the case of those two girls it all clicked. An interesting thing here, is it used to be thought with younger girls 23 and younger they gave more LMR. This is true if you run too solid of a game on them. But as the Ca Pimp told us, ‘No way brother, you just got to lead em quick into state, in a way they are always taking steps forward. They will follow your lead if you put it in front of them.’
The shitty thing was that this girl fucking squirted all over my fucking bed… kind of a cool novelty, but really not something that is fun to clean up.

And to tail out the story…and really I have no idea how this happened, but that day Miss Long Ass Hair got in a Text war that is still going.
That 3erd day in Vegas she sent me 76 texts, that were super fucking long and comfort heavy. I ran no comfort with this chick for the 15 mins I was with her. Again, her calling till 9am is kind of understandable, but the next day staying in that sort of flurry without having any rapport, is pretty weird.
I was sitting there with Sinn going WTF! She is telling me her travel plans what hotel she is staying in and that she will be alone…I mean now I am in good with all the comfort shit, but I don’t get how aggressively she started it.
We will see what happens with her.

The girl I didn’t close who was with her sister and brother in law I would expect that kind of text flurry because I ran that kind of game on her.
And I got it too. There will be more from both of them. And I think there will be something to post about soon.

Thursday, May 1, 2008

Austin This Weekend!

So Sinn and I will be coming up to Austin on May 2, 3, 4

We will be doing a 2 hour Lair Talk for $50
The $50 Lair talk will come with a 15min phone consult based on topics of Inner Game, Day Game/Under 21, Routine Stacks, and SNLs
I will be giving a talk on Inner Game And El Topo will be giving a talk on Cold Reading and how to use it to elicit Frames and Subpersonalities.

The talk will be held at the Holiday Inn at 8500 NORTH IH-35
AUSTIN, TX 78753
UNITED STATES

Sign up here or pay $55 at the door
Here


Fri Night- Lair Talk
and First night of Getting Started in Game Course (see below for description)

Sat Day- Getting Started in Game Seminar
Sat Night- Last night of Getting started in Game

Sun Day- SNL Course and Routine Stack Course

Getting Started in Game- $1500 - Sinn/El Topo (limited to 6 Students)
(Coaches Dante and The Goat)

First Day (Fri) 1 Hour Seminar breaking down the basics of what we need to see that evening to properly shape your game, and 3 hours in Field.
Second Day (Sat day into Sat night) 5 hour seminar with 3 hours in Field
The seminar on Sat will completely nail down the new models of Attraction, Comfort and Seduction, giving an absolute structure to your game.
You will walk out of there equip for the night with a complete Attraction Arsenal. In field that evening you'll be opening and should have all the basics down for you to open and transition into relaxed rapport with your targets. This is the definitive coarse on everything you will need to know to Get Started in Game!

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Same Night Lays- $950 Sinn (unlimited attendance)
This is the course that blew everyone away. Over a year in the making Sinn's SNL Course will teach you not only the techniques but also the mentality to master how to meet and close a girl in the Same Night! This was once thought to be a myth in the community until myself and Captain Jack turned it into a repeatable technique. Learn to achieve lays that come as quick as 30mins, learn the proper frame escalation...SNLs are a series of Steps and Experience in Field, not some luck of the draw community Myth.
Even if SNLs are not your goal, this idea of efficient game is the BEST way to game, taking all the unnecessary elements and throwing them out.
Dominate your game knowing,
what to do, how to talk to women, how to frame, and how handle the logistics, all in a 5 hour Seminar!

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theREDstack Seminar- $750 El Topo (Limited to 10 Students)
We have all heard about theREDstacks and now here is your opportunity learn how it works. See the design the El Topo formulated so that he could literally get results in EVERY TYPE of Student.
What makes the stack work like no other product out there? It takes parts of Your Life and turns it into Gold. You will learn to properly DHV yourself, you will learn how to frame to elicit a Sub Personality, you will learn how to tactically run your comfort game into a defining tool of game. While simply telling a story about your life (while being honest), imagine if you could build irresistible attraction leading your target right where you want her.
Well worth the 5 hours, you will walkout of the room with another Veil of the Matrix Revealed.
Who knew that all those things you never thought to be seductive just had to be re voiced in a way for you to have any girl melt in your hand.

If you guys have any questions, hit one of us up!
eltopopua@gmail.com or sinnstravel@gmail.com